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ActualAl
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admin
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Test comment
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Thanks to Kevin’s input, we now seem to have fixed this. Download cp_latest.zip for an updated plugin.
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alan
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this is really interesting!
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Alan Levine
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I’ve been eager to try this since it came out. We just published a Commentpress version of a new NMC white paper “Social Networking, the “Third Place,” and the Evolution of Communication”
http://web.nmc.org/communication/
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Alexandre Rafalovitch
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I use coComment’s services to track my public comments and conversations I participated in.
It might be useful to have private meta-comment facility. I think I have heard of some tools like that (clipping services?), but I am not using any at the moment.
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Andrew
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This is an interesting piece of software – looks fantastic for this kind of thing actually.
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AnnaBella
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I tried this theme on my test site. It seems to work fine in Firefox but I get a javascript void error in IE.
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Anupam
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I downloaded the latest Wordpress 2.9.2 and tried using cp_latest. I am unable to activate the theme. It keeps telling me:
“The following themes are installed but incomplete. Themes must have a stylesheet and a template.
Name Description
commentpress Stylesheet is missing.”
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B
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This is a test post wanting to see how this looks.
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Ben Oehler
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Correspondence training in theology and apologetics for students in Russia and the Ukraine.
We just started. Give me a couple of months and I will be able to give you a kind of report…
Prof Ben Oehler, HGE University,
Odessa, Ukraine
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ben vershbow
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Another option: Jack Slocum, whose own granular commenting system very much influenced Commentpress, calls them “blocks”.
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Bruce D'Arcus
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On the floating overview list, the “Paragraph X” list seems both repetitive, and rather thin on information. Am wondering if it might be more helpful to instead have a heading “Paragraphs” followed by a numbered list that includes the first line of each paragraph?
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Bruce Deger
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I am a middle school teacher and my advisory/homeroom is using the blog to discuss a book we are reading. The students and I take turns reading the book. We record the readings in Audacity and upload the mp3s to the blog posts for students who are absent. Our discussions are pretty basic at this point, but I think the format has potential for giving students practice in reading, writing, speaking and listening.
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Chart
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ditto
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I think this works great….
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Christian Wach
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Thanks for the heads up Rachael – now fixed
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I don’t get this error on 2.9.2, and AFAIK, Wordpress plugin headers haven’t changed format. Can you give bit more information on your installation environment?
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copystar
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Scholr 2.0 : a white paper by Scholars Portage
(”getting research from one body to another”)Much thanks for Commentpress and all your work!
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Dan Weinstein
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I like “blocks” myself. I also like “units” or “sense unit”.
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Danny
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The ability to tag the paragraphs withoiut the <p> tag. Perhaps a different custom tag, as I’d like that every single paragraph seperatly commentable.
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Sorry, id like it it every single pararaph WASN’T seperatly commentable by default.
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dc
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One feature I’m really hoping to see is the ability to break up long chapters into multiple pages using the tag (currently supported by wordpress). As it is now, if the post is broken up into multiple pages, a comment for paragraph 3 would be linked to the 3rd paragraph for every page of that chapter, not just to the one page it was meant to be linked to (sorry for the awkward wording there — I hope you can understand!).
Also, I would love to see some form of footnotes feature implemented as Papier Machine wrote above. Instead, I was forced to write my own footnote script that worked with commentpress.
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demetri
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i like the image of the book!
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nice picture
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After installing commentpress and following the directions, I’m getting a “fatal error” in the coding. Any advice on this?
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when I get to step 13 of the installation, i get this:
Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /users/leaf3/users/web/irtemed/web/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/commentpress/class_commentpress_display.php on line 1546
any ideas?
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Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /users/leaf3/users/web/irtemed/web/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/commentpress/class_commentpress_display.php on line 1546
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Dot
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I have a document that includes many bulleted lists, and Commentpress is essentially useless because there is no way to indicate that a list is a paragraph. Doesn’t help to add tags around the list. Makes me very sad, as Commentpress is so useful otherwise.
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Dustin
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I’ve run into this same issue. It would appear to be something that shows up in Commentpress when you have WP2.3 installed. I was able to successfully use CP with both WP versions 2.1 and 2.2.3.
A look at my htttpd error log seems to indicate that CP causes some sort of unrecoverable error. Example:
[Thu Sep 27 10:56:34 2007] [notice] child pid 1596 exit signal Illegal instruction (4)I’ve received the same issue on both Mac OSX and Solaris. I’ve tried it both with Apache 1.33 and Apache2, and PHP4 and 5.
This really does seem to be some incompatibility between WP2.3 and CP1.4.
Thanks!
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Dylan Knight Rogers
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The Untitled Document is using Commentpress:
http://theuntitleddocument.org
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E.D. Kain
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Interesting concept.
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Eddie A. Tejeda
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This should be resolved in version 1.1
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Giovani Spagnolo
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I am very pleased to see this. It has been a long time we are working on something similar, but as a standalone app, fully open source (gnu affero gplv3). Feel frre to contact me if you need some help (specially UI and UX).
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Godffrey
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We look forward to seeing developments in the future.
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hapa
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there’s a blur here. the standard blog comment is a note to the author or the reading group. the standard book note is a pointer for later reference by that one reader. collaborative texts are interesting to me, but i can’t use this to annotate your blog, because i can’t find it again easily.
1) can’t track comments i left here, a year from now, from another location
2) wouldn’t necessarily be able to find a comment i left here again even if i remembered what i’d said.this is probably a system service i’m talking about, integrated with any and all web browsers. it would appear on the page itself as a note i made and it would be in a searchable list of notes made in a dedicated — dunno, maybe “travel diary” interface.
anyway my ideal would be to have clicked that talk bubble over there and have that make this note (with a public/private checkbox?) which then automatically registered — no — i’m talking about two different systems. comments for discussion, and a maybe a pencil icon for personal note. well anyhow the note would be logged in some portable database.
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having this interface in font of me, with the floating composition space, it’s fantastic. a real mental freshener. it occurs to me that if the meta-comment gizmo were to exist it would have to be paired with a web snapshot facility to retain context. i don’t know how i would handle that, but it’s a problem with web research in general. when you start going element-by-element on a page you get that exponential thing — nifty though to be able to see your friends’ del.icio.us markings, graf by graf, as you browse. version control nightmare!
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Jack Phelps
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Just another person testing out commentpress. neat idea; in our software we’ve got word-by-word commenting so teachers can click just about anywhere in a student’s work and write in comments, which has its advantages and disadvantages vs this.
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jdwilbur
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Interesting point. Public and private comments is something we’ve definitely had on the radar before, and may put into Commentpress eventually. But the idea of publishing out your comments to a private, portable space—it’s a lot like a feature of most feed-readers. You can choose which links from your feed appear on a public blog, which is independent of the feed, and basically acts as a tracking device for all your readings.
This, of course, requires a centralized service on which to store the feed records, so the model is different than Commentpress. But maybe there’s something we can think about here using OpenID and pingbacks or trackbacks. In any case, a difficult problem in our current model of distributed installs, but an interesting thought. Thanks!
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jean Lyon
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Hi
I have just discovered Commentpress, thank you for making it available, great tool for some sort of collaborative work
Please keep updating it
Thank you from France
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Jeppe K
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I created a website with the Constitution of Denmark for people to debate a much talked about future update of the law. It’s called Grundlovs Debat.
It’s in Danish though, so non-Danish readers probably won’t get much out of it, but Commentpress is a very cool tool for discussing texts like that.
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jerome
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that would make an amazing tool!
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Jon
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Hi there
Is Commentpress dead? Any news of updates to theme welcome!
Best wishes
Jon
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I should add if anyone can drop the code or where to find it to make compatible with 2.8.4 pls do.
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Jon Potts
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I’m new to Commentpress and just a week old on the edublogs site.
I’d love to use Commentpress for my English class homepage/blog, but…
The “read/write comments” bubbles do not seem to function on my site. I click and nothing happens–my fault?
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jonair
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“a content license selector” sounds great! but i couldn’t find out anything @ “Commentpress options page” except ‘The title for table of contents’ and ‘ The slug of post to appear as welcome message’. am i in the wrong page?
Also, in s.korea, we have similar license scheme like CCL. can i add it to the selection?btw, i really hope to localize it into korean. where can i reach ‘internationalization support’ so that i start to translate?
thanks
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Joss Winn
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A site for commenting on public reports in considerable detail. Texts are broken down into their respective sections for easier consumption. Rather than comment on the text as a whole, you are encouraged to direct comments to specific paragraphs.
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K.G. Schneider
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Many journalists I know refer to “graphs.” A “paragraph” could be the larger term. Or to be clearer, change the term for the aggregated paragraphs — perhaps call them “comment sections.”
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kadewe
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Howdy Book Futurists,
I am setting up a “Plog” at http://www.didactalab.de/plog – right now it is in German language, but here is a short synopsis of the Plog idea:
A “Plog” is a Publication Blog, where the author(s) reflect their publications:Short synopsis of the most important points with some quotes
reflection of thoughts
background infos and material, insights from today (what was good, where did we go wrong etc.)
rediscover ideas
make texts accessible where no fulltext is in open access
start discussion with readers
collect ideas, questions, contra-positions etc. from the readersIt’s a great tool – thanks for making it available!
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Keith Webster
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Hi there,
We are using WordPress MU at the University of Victoria for distance courses and program community building. Are there any plans for the Commentpress theme to work with WordPress MU?
Thanks,
Keith Webster
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Kevin Lim
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Same problem as demetri. He’s probably using the latest WP install, 2.9.1, like me. Are there any solutions to this?
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KF
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My in-process article on Commentpress, in Commentpress: http://new.plannedobsolescence.net
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Yeah, that’s a 2+ year old link, which is no longer working. That article is now readable at http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/mcpress/cpfinal and my book, also in CommentPress, is available at http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/mcpress/plannedobsolescence.
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Leslie Johnston
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Is something like captcha or recaptcha in the development plan, or has added this themselves? Our sys admin wonders if there is a way to integrate challenge-response into Commentpress to avoid automated spamming.
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mace
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For private notes i use Zotero, which is basically a citation tool with some annotation functions. It’s implemented as a Firefox extension. I would prefer to by default share my notes and it AFAIK sharing of links and notes is in the works. Zotero takes snapshots of pages and retains a link to the original. I wish it had a function to compare the saved and the current versions of the original web page.
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I wonder if you’re aware of the term guthenbergs parenthesis, it’s fascinating. The point is, that the printing press brought forth an era between the manuscript era and digital era during which texts were neither annotated nor shared by readers. With manuscripts the copies of texts were so few that scholars and other people studying shared them and thus their annotations too.
With the printing press, everybody could get their own private copy, thus no sharing was taking place. Also reading became a solitary, silent endeavour, unlike before. And now in the age of digital distribution, well… we spend all days discussing texts :) Gutenberg parenthesis presents a period of silence in annotation and sharing the annotation.
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Personally i think a WP plugin is not a perfect solution, since it’s not generalist. I would find a 3rd party service for centralized comments and a method for client (browser) to fetch and display them. Such a system perhaps already exists, but i’ve just failed to utilize it. Anyhow the idea and implementation of this commenting system is fantastic in a limited context. You’ve done an excellent job at questioning the standard style of blog comments (i cannot believe that hasn’t evolved after blogs were invented) and presenting a functional examples of an alternative.
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I guess it is an inherent feature of commenting on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis, that i already wrote about the issues rised here in an earlier comment above. Perhaps it would still be a good idea to first read through the whole text at one uninterrupted go before commenting. Instead of hopping from reading-mode to commenting-mode after each paragraph ;)
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There’s an simple article about web annotation on Wikipedia, with a list of implementations: I should go and try some.
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Mark French
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I would like to have the option, of displaying the all the paragraphs of the original article side-by-side (contextually) with the comments of a selected individual user.
This would give greater coherence to the views of individual commentators and would open all sorts of creative possibilities for versioning.A great tool!
Mark
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Michael Becker
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I used Commentpress to put my entire master’s thesis online for public scrutiny.
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MJ Ray
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eddie@futureofthebook.org is a bouncing address.
Anyway: when will Commentpress be accessible without JavaScript? It’s not possible to use this without failing accessibility guidelines at present, which is a shame for a good tool. If it’s not planned yet, can you outline what changes you think would be needed?
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mjd
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I am using the Theme to dust off and work on a decade old project: Nomads at the Gate (http://dubnick.com/nomads/). I am just getting use to WP, so this is going to be slow process of gearing up….
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Mr Test Guy
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Just checking to see how this works…
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Patri Friedman
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It’s awesome that you use paragraph tags, I wrote my own commenting system many years ago in perl and it also used paragraph breaks. So hopefully I can port my book draft over to Comment Press with minimal reformatting required.
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Paul
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I’m a little at a loss for how ‘marginalia’ is lost. the ebook is always availalbe on the web’s ’shelf’ just like any old book hidden on your book shelf. the same way you go back to find your book notes, you can find your web notes along with those of others which should provide a more edifying experience overall.
i’m sure at some point the text and comments of important texts will be provided in a print version – there will always be a need for canonization by materialization. At that point, the text and annotations will be easily pulled and distributed to all. The social evolution of the book can be made palpable.
This experiment excites me a great deal.
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philippe boisnard
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Yes, I recognize the work of McKenzie. I’ve seen a demonstration during a festival at Paris.
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PJ Brunet
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I had a similar idea about three years ago at the library, nice implementation!
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You could also use this to collaboratively translate a text ;-)
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Plouin
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paragraphe génial
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zezezezez
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Rachael
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need to edit: “it can constantly being revised.”
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Rebecca
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This is a great idea!
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Robert
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Nice para
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Roberto Pettinato
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gv
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interesting
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Ross Smith
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Your development has already been eclipsed.
Reframeit.com has a tool that anone can use to comment on any portion (a word, phrase, sentence, paragraph — anything they highlight with the cursor) of any web page on the internets!
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Scienceguru
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I use Commentpress as the layout for my AP Biology class’ blog, where we discuss issues in science, technology and society: TheBiologySpace.BioBlog
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Shai Gluskin
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Ultimately, I’m not sure Wordpress is the best platform for this idea. Maybe MediaWiki would be a better platform to start with. Or possibly Drupal.
This implementation is limited by a lot of things, including the fact that the paragraph and the page are the only units of text that can be commented on.
But it’s a great way to get a lot of people experimenting with relatively low technical threshold to cross.
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Stephen Francoeur
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CUNY just put a draft of its 2008-2012 Master Plan up using Commentpress.
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Steve
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this is a great application. Looks like something that can really help collaboration.
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Stuart
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Any updates for commentpress latest development?
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test
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This is a very nice feature.
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TESTER
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Hello, this is a comment on paragraph 1.
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w
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This link appears to be broken. I’m so eager to see how you’re using this.
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wertwertfwer
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ewrewrwe
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Xavier Normand
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What about translation in french?
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Y-Love
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Just testing this, and seeing how threaded the replies are.
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Yusuf
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Hi,
While trying to activate this on wordpress 2.9.2 it gives the error ‘The plugin does not have a valid header.’.
Any solution to this?
Thanks,
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Hi Guys. Forgive my ignorance but after reading the Eduspaces comment does this mean that Commentpress runs on wordpress Mu too??